| Spark/Arc/Streamer - Model (by Terry Fritz) | ||||||||||||
| To: wysock@ttr.com, Tesla List <tesla@pupman.com> | ||||||||||||
| Subject: Private mail Re: IMPORTANT: RESEARCH ON WHAT? | ||||||||||||
| From: Terry Fritz <terryf@verinet.com> | ||||||||||||
| Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 18:24:11 -0700 | ||||||||||||
| Cc: "Wysock, William C." <Wysock@courier8.aero.org>, ken.corum@east.sun.com, jcorum@earthlink.net, rhull@richmond.infi.net | ||||||||||||
| At 10:55 PM 11/29/98 +0000, wysock@ttr.com wrote: | ||||||||||||
| <snipped> | ||||||||||||
| >The point being this: If you take a 3-coil | ||||||||||||
| >system (master oscillator consisting of a primary and secondary,) | ||||||||||||
| >and then use that system to dirve the input of a tertiary ("extra") | ||||||||||||
| >coil, and if you look at what is happening to those component's | ||||||||||||
| >electrical behavior on a Smith Chart, you will see that indeed, these | ||||||||||||
| >elements do not act as "lumped-sum" inductances; rather they behave | ||||||||||||
| >(in series) as a slow wave helical resonator (top load capacitance | ||||||||||||
| >notwithstanding.) In other words, on a Smith Chart, one can graph | ||||||||||||
| >the ground connection point (input to the secondary [master | ||||||||||||
| >oscillator] as "zero" on the chart.) If you look at the output of | ||||||||||||
| >this coil, (transmission line to the extra coil,) you will see that | ||||||||||||
| >the phase has been rotated about such that the output at this point | ||||||||||||
| >might represent about 20-25 degrees of phase shift. Not 90 degrees. | ||||||||||||
| Terry answers: | ||||||||||||
| I would submit two cautions to this analysis: | ||||||||||||
| First, the Smith chart is meant to study steady state situations only. In | ||||||||||||
| the case of Tesla circuits, the circuits operate under transient response | ||||||||||||
| conditions. Many of the fantastic output voltages of older theories make | ||||||||||||
| this error in that they assumed high Q coils could resonate up to very high | ||||||||||||
| voltages without considering that there was not enough energy available in | ||||||||||||
| the primary system to ever support those high potentials. A coil my have a | ||||||||||||
| high Q but unless it can be feed with driving power for a substantial | ||||||||||||
| length of time it will never be able to attain significant resonant rise | ||||||||||||
| before the drive circuit runs out of energy. Typically, the primary energy | ||||||||||||
| falls far short of supporting this effect. | ||||||||||||
| The second problem is that the output arcs present a very substantial load | ||||||||||||
| to the system. In order for a system to have resonant rise it must have | ||||||||||||
| some rather nice Q value. However, if you load a system with 220000 ohms | ||||||||||||
| (our present estimate for arc loading) the system Q will drop like a rock. | ||||||||||||
| The output is not simply a secondary (or extra coil in the three coil case) | ||||||||||||
| and a capacitor. The very substantial load of the arc must also be added | ||||||||||||
| to the system. I use 220k ohms plus a series 1pF for every foot of arc | <---- 220k + 13pF for 4m arclength ! | |||||||||||
| length capacitor as a "model" of the arc load. Testing with this model of | ||||||||||||
| the streamer load has shown to be quite accurate (amazingly accurate | <---- streamer = arc ? | |||||||||||
| actually). | ||||||||||||
| With the combined effects of transient behavior and arc loading, I feel | ||||||||||||
| that the effects of Q, resonant rise, and phase shift and other | ||||||||||||
| transmission line effects are lost. The elements act as simple lumped | ||||||||||||
| elements. It is well known that a secondary coil can be fed with a signal | ||||||||||||
| generator to create standing waves. However, if you place a 220K ohm | ||||||||||||
| resistor from the output to ground, the resonant rise will be damped and | ||||||||||||
| the coil will act like a simple inductor. Further more, if you pulse it | ||||||||||||
| for the brief time as a Tesla coil uses, the effects will be suppressed | ||||||||||||
| even more. In transmission lines, there is significant phase shift of the | ||||||||||||
| current between the base and the top of the line. If it were a 1/4 wave | ||||||||||||
| device it would be 90 degrees. However, my direct measurements of | ||||||||||||
| operating coils show no phase shift as I have written (there must be some, | ||||||||||||
| but I can't see below 5 degrees well). Thus the "trash the 1/4 wave | ||||||||||||
| theory" posts to the list many months ago. There is phase shift from the | ||||||||||||
| top terminal (toroid) input to the streamers as Greg Leyh and I have shown. | ||||||||||||
| It is this phase shift that we use to calculate the impedance of output | ||||||||||||
| streamers. This does affect the top to bottom phase very slightly but this | ||||||||||||
| is due to loading and not Q effects. The fact that his giant Electrum and | ||||||||||||
| my little coil show the same ~220k ohm real resistance (although very | ||||||||||||
| different capacitance) in the streamers still stuns me. However, many arc | ||||||||||||
| physics experts on the list thinks this is perfectly obvious. I don't | ||||||||||||
| understand all the ions, arc channel, plasma region... stuff but I get what | ||||||||||||
| it means to the output load and I'll trust them. | ||||||||||||